Are you planning on voting against Obama because of the birth control pill issue

Why don't they clean their own house first? There are 28 states in this Union that already have that law. Why have all this noise now?

So they can continue to say Obama is making war on religion.

I am a Catholic woman and to tell you the truth right now, I'm not sure I want to stay a Catholic. Shame on the church and all the right wing lunatics for starting this tempest.

The utter corruption of the Catholic Church is appalling. I don't know how anyone can support the church with thousands upon thousands of child rape cases staring them in the face and the knowledge that the Church covered up their crimes, paid off victims using collection plate money and moved pedophiles around to prey on even more children.

I also don't understand why we pay any attention to such an organization when it comes to moral issues when they clearly act in immoral ways on a consistent basis.

As I have said on other threads and will continue to repeat, birth control is the best medicine available if we want less unwanted pregnancies, and fewer abortions. It is only common sense to make it more available and more affordable.

The Catholic has no right to make rules for or govern the country. It is freedom of all religions or non-religions not just freedom for Catholicism. If it wants to practice its religious views then it should receive money from it parishioners and not the people of America through government funding.

I haven't decided who to vote for but, care about this issue.

From their actions, it is clear that Catholic objections aren't motivated by care about fetuses or about principle in any way, but rather Catholic objections are motivated by a self-aggrandizing desire to regain a measure of unjustifiable control over others.

Ah, you all are getting it now.

Just like Hitler, the catholic church has NEVER made a secret of wanting to impose ITS beliefs on reproduction on the rest of the country, it's just that nobody's been paying attention, unless you are or were catholic.

Actually YES.... Obama will be toast because he has not done as promised and really stepped over the line with this issue.

His title is not "King Obama" .. And he certainly has not done as promised.. His accountable administration is a joke. Gun Runner. His open door policy was a slam in the voters face, and look at Guantanamo...

Got Lobbyists... Obama does.... He was backed by Goldman sachs and now they are backing both Obama and Romney....

Let's get a grip and get a big broom out this next time.

Newbigtech, I respect your feelings about Obama, but, who do you see winning the election, and why? What policies of theirs will be better than the current President?

Don't interrupt Newbigtech's bluster with reality, like that, Slivaria!

Seriously, the reality is that everything Newbigtech accuses the President of, the Republicans practice, and typically with far more negative impact. We only need to look back four years to see how much more often Republicans fail to fulfill promises that they make to the middle class. We only need to look back four years to see what an American "King" actually looks like, in the person of "King George", deposed in 2009. And Newbigtech made that point that Romney has the favor of Wall Street, and as a long-time corporate vulture, all the street cred anyone would ever need to realize that he's going to screw the middle class far worse than even "King George" did.

Agreed Nobama 2012.

are you planning to vote against Obama...

hell no!!!

i am not sure if you musunderstood my answer, but i AM planning to vote for MY President...Obama, 2012 !!!

luv,

ron

Double hell no with a cherry on top!

This is a non issue which is blown out of proportion to give Repubs something else to pivot to because the economy is improving and they are loosing the doom and gloom argument. All they have left is the "Attacking my religious freedom" argument and even it ringing rather hollow.

Playing the social Issues card

It's all they got.

Those are almost all reasons for voting against the Republicans. And for many of them, the Republicans are far worse offenders.

It looks like you'll either have no one to vote for this fall, or deceive yourself to justify casting an irrational vote.

Well I do understand that the Republicans are in lock-step agreement with Obama on all these issues.

Which is another reason I cannot vote for Obama. It would be throwing away my vote.. and my conscience won't let me do that.

I'm done with supporting the DemocratsandRepublicans. I'm voting Green... not throwing my vote away on our one monolithic American political party that owns both sides of every ticket... and therefore cannot lose an election.

This red herring non issue of contraception is nothing but a ploy to keep folks supporting the DemocratsandRepublicans.

The GOP and Democratic parties have tacitly agreed not to bring up real issues until after the election.... I'm not part of their deal.

I don't see where my vote will be irrational... simply because there is no viable opposition to "The Party".

I just cannot support the policies of the DemocratsandRepublicans... and I find these red herring issues to be insulting to my intelligence.

Colonial

I too, am Catholic and will still vote for Obama. I agree - I could never understand why the church is against contraceptives when it would reduce the number of abortions. I can see their problem with the morning after pill, but not the other methods. What you said about natural family planning reminds me of the pre-marital classes my husband and I had to attend before we were married. One week, we were introduced to natural family planning by a couple who had 6 kids. Not exactly the best endorsement for the method. Many Catholics tend to disagree with the church on this issue and use contraceptives. You don't see many Catholic couples with large families anymore and it's because they're practicing birth control and I doubt they're using natural planning.

Well, the point you're missing is that after the election rhetoric is over, there are no differences between Romney and Obama.. just as there were no differences between Bush and Obama.

Sure, there are a few trivial red herring issues these folks seem to disagree about... but that's what they are- trivial red herring issues.

These DemocratsandRepublicans are selling legislation and policy in return for "campaign donations"... and business is booming.

Voting for Romney is exactly the same as voting for Obama, at least as far as policy and legislation goes.

Obama had us in three wars at once, he's strengthened and extended the Patriot Act and given us "Indefinite Detention" This is a "conservative Democrat"? Gimme a break.

So what if the next president is a Republican? There is only one monolithic political party in the US... it is the DemocratsandRepublicans... and "this >gestures< is how they run things.

But I think you can relax... even if a few individuals realize what is going on and break out of the mob... the inertia of the lemming-hoarde is unabated and surely they shall continue voting themselves over the metaphorical cliff.

As the US electorate is obedient and docile.

Well, the point you're missing is that after the election rhetoric is over, there are no differences between Romney and Obama.. just as there were no differences between Bush and Obama.

Sorry but this is missing a whole big piece of the pie. You can make a reasonable argument that the end-effect with regard to economic and financial considerations is negligible - I may not agree with your argument but I can at least respect your contention - but you cannot make a reasonable argument that there would be no significant difference in the impact on personal liberties. Republican have a very clear and direct right-wing reactionary social agenda, and they've been very effective at stacking courts and school boards with operatives to carry out that agenda. Democrats also have a very clear social agenda, aimed at liberal compassion and consideration of others, and if given the chance, would work very effectively to reverse the regression inflicted on the country by the Republicans in the last few decades.

If you cannot make a decision on the economic considerations, fine, but that just leads even more clearly to the imperative to vote for the Democrats.

Social issues are something to look at.

The GOP does nothing significant about abortion when they have both houses, the Presidency and a stacked SCOTUS,

When the Democrats are not in power, they become "the peace party" typically being critical of the wars, without really doing anything about them.

If you listen to politicians talk, they are bitterly competitive political philosophies. If you don't listen to them talk, but just watch what they do, that's when the (one monolithic) Party comes into view.

Obama talked as though states' rights concerning say, marijuana clinics, were not going to be harassed by the federal police forces. If you just listen, it was the end of the war on pot.

Now watching him, he's a fanatical follower of the status quo... and his social policies on everything are no different than any other member of The Party.

Look at this:

Folks are concerned about Syria. It seems that people there are protesting, and the Syrian government is killing them for it. Tragic stuff... especially as there is no need for it.

If the Syrians would just break their government into two superficially competitive political parties, they could continue their tyranny at any level they wish, and be totally immune to the people, elections and/or revolutions.

In my country, which is very poor (not really) and very far away, (the USA) this technique has worked for generations.

When only 50% of the government is ever questioned or challenged by 50% of the people, no one is accountable for anything, and the people are content to blame everything on the other half.... no matter what.

And even though the "two parties" are actually one political entity, the people will swear loyalty to that one political entity,via the party of their choice, and there you go... a government that can be as corrupt and oppressive as it wishes, and also, entirely immune to its people.

Why these Syrian barbarians can't figure this out is beyond me.

They don't have to be REAL political parties...they can just be like our Democrats and Republicans... You know.. one or two red herring issues to argue about...and then total agreement and collusion on 99% of Syrian policy. The "two parties" can announce things they believe in... and as long as they don't actually believe in anything, their jobs are secure, their tyranny intact, and their power is absolute.

In my country, the RepublicansandDemocrats win every election. We Americans would rather eat our young with broken glass than to vote for anyone else. The government is entirely free from any legislated limits, and fundraising has never been better. It's a win-win situation for America.

Our strategy would work well for the Syrian government..the Syrian people aren't any smarter than Americans, I betcha.